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		<title>by: owwmykneecap</title>
		<link>http://tcal.net/archives/2006/10/24/irish-road-safety/#comment-210106</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 15:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>it's not just speed

its speed + shit roads+ crap drivers= death

anyway its all young girls fault, if they didnt blow every spotty fucker in his jumped up chickenchaser of a saxo,glanza et al well there would be a lot less of the cunts about</description>
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<p>its speed + shit roads+ crap drivers= death</p>
<p>anyway its all young girls fault, if they didnt blow every spotty fucker in his jumped up chickenchaser of a saxo,glanza et al well there would be a lot less of the cunts about
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		<title>by: ger</title>
		<link>http://tcal.net/archives/2006/10/24/irish-road-safety/#comment-208891</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Agreed, the drug issue needs to be tackled.  Are there any countries that test for drugs?  Are there any quick drug tests that can be done?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, the drug issue needs to be tackled.  Are there any countries that test for drugs?  Are there any quick drug tests that can be done?
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		<title>by: concerned</title>
		<link>http://tcal.net/archives/2006/10/24/irish-road-safety/#comment-208617</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I think experience and a sense of personal reponsibilty is the most important thing. Alot of countries in the world have driving centres. These centres teach inexperienced drivers of all ages, how to react properly on the road. For example driving on ice or wet roads, driving in the dark and how to control a skid, slide etc. Not only do they teach you to control the car it also shows you how many things can go wrong and to be more careful.
Anyway the drink/drug driving issue. Can somebody explain to me why the Gaurds are out in force testing drivers on a Sunday/Monday morning, than on a Weekend night. 
ALot has to be done. Including the standard of our roads. Compared to other countries in Europe, Germany, France, Spain etc etc they're a disgrace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think experience and a sense of personal reponsibilty is the most important thing. Alot of countries in the world have driving centres. These centres teach inexperienced drivers of all ages, how to react properly on the road. For example driving on ice or wet roads, driving in the dark and how to control a skid, slide etc. Not only do they teach you to control the car it also shows you how many things can go wrong and to be more careful.<br />
Anyway the drink/drug driving issue. Can somebody explain to me why the Gaurds are out in force testing drivers on a Sunday/Monday morning, than on a Weekend night.<br />
ALot has to be done. Including the standard of our roads. Compared to other countries in Europe, Germany, France, Spain etc etc they&#8217;re a disgrace.
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		<title>by: ger</title>
		<link>http://tcal.net/archives/2006/10/24/irish-road-safety/#comment-208606</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>sorry about that, I could have sworn i read they introduced mandatory training, must have been a proposition.  I stilll think it would be a good idea though.

As for speed, I disagree.  The speed doesn't kill, it's inability and lack of skills that end up causing the accidents whether the driver is travelling fast or not.

Germany is only slightly ahead of Ireland the number of road deaths in this article, but according to your logic, they should be way out on their own in the numbers of dead, because they only post 'recommended' speeds on certain sections of motorway.  I'll still put my money on education.

Incidently, what does everyone think about all the privatised speed cameras?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry about that, I could have sworn i read they introduced mandatory training, must have been a proposition.  I stilll think it would be a good idea though.</p>
<p>As for speed, I disagree.  The speed doesn&#8217;t kill, it&#8217;s inability and lack of skills that end up causing the accidents whether the driver is travelling fast or not.</p>
<p>Germany is only slightly ahead of Ireland the number of road deaths in this article, but according to your logic, they should be way out on their own in the numbers of dead, because they only post &#8216;recommended&#8217; speeds on certain sections of motorway.  I&#8217;ll still put my money on education.</p>
<p>Incidently, what does everyone think about all the privatised speed cameras?
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		<title>by: janet power</title>
		<link>http://tcal.net/archives/2006/10/24/irish-road-safety/#comment-208524</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 09:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>every one can sit down all day and discuss irish road safety but the conclusions would be the same.I know people may say this is such a a cliche but speed does kill.i generally do believe people think the faster the better.people actually dont care until it happens on their doorstep.put urself in in a situation that u have lost a close friend or realative through a car accident,,,now ur opinion has changed and hopefully ur attiude also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>every one can sit down all day and discuss irish road safety but the conclusions would be the same.I know people may say this is such a a cliche but speed does kill.i generally do believe people think the faster the better.people actually dont care until it happens on their doorstep.put urself in in a situation that u have lost a close friend or realative through a car accident,,,now ur opinion has changed and hopefully ur attiude also.
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		<title>by: maca</title>
		<link>http://tcal.net/archives/2006/10/24/irish-road-safety/#comment-208252</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;Mandatory training is the way to go (eg: Sweden/Finland)&quot;

A driving course isn't mandatory in Finland ... you can get anyone to teach you but their car must be fitted with extra pedals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Mandatory training is the way to go (eg: Sweden/Finland)&#8221;</p>
<p>A driving course isn&#8217;t mandatory in Finland &#8230; you can get anyone to teach you but their car must be fitted with extra pedals.
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		<title>by: ger</title>
		<link>http://tcal.net/archives/2006/10/24/irish-road-safety/#comment-208236</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>How about, in addition to the driver theory test, there is an aptitude test.  &quot;Stupid cunts&quot; can therefore be separated from &quot;Not stupid cunts&quot; long, long before they ever get near a car.  &quot;Stupid cunts&quot; could possiby sit an extra test as a result, or have to undergo extra training/tuition.

I have always thought that insurance co's should pioneer a form of aptitude test before offering insurance (but then it's not in their interest to discount large portions of their customer base when they don't really have to do so).

Mandatory training is the way to go (eg: Sweden/Finland), the standard of driving on our road is frightening.  It's not the speed that kills, it's absolute inability and ignorance.  The majority of car drivers I know, don't know if their car is front or rear wheel drive, if it has ABS/BFD, rear discs/drums, etc, etc.  How the hell are they suppost to control a vehicle when they don't understand the damn thing works and how it will behave in the event of understeer, oversteer, lock up, wheel spin, etc etc etc.

As for the three E's.  In any other country, you would only need one E.  EDUCATION.  Education executed properly would all but eliminate the need for ENFORCEMENT.  However Ireland also needs ENGINEERING, as the interconnected potholes we call a road network get worse by the day.  (I always have to laugh when I see a man with &quot;Road Engineer&quot; printed on a floresent jacket runs into the middle of the road with a shovel full of tar to &quot;fix&quot; a gaping casm in the road).  As a bike, I will NOT be told that the state of or roads do not contribute to the accidents.  It's fucking LETHAL out there on a bike.  Let us not forget the car drivers though, I have to bring my car to the mechanic this weekend as I have front left suspension damage from all the FUCKING POTHOLES!

how about &quot;DARWIN AWARD NOMINEE&quot; tatoos on the foreheads of anyone convicted of drink driving? (and drug driving if something would ever be done)

Quite the rant, I could go on all day.  Let's rap it up with, don't expect ANYTHING meaningfull to be done by this Gov unless they can find a way to cream from it.  They only want you alive to pay your taxes (and mortgages)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about, in addition to the driver theory test, there is an aptitude test.  &#8220;Stupid cunts&#8221; can therefore be separated from &#8220;Not stupid cunts&#8221; long, long before they ever get near a car.  &#8220;Stupid cunts&#8221; could possiby sit an extra test as a result, or have to undergo extra training/tuition.</p>
<p>I have always thought that insurance co&#8217;s should pioneer a form of aptitude test before offering insurance (but then it&#8217;s not in their interest to discount large portions of their customer base when they don&#8217;t really have to do so).</p>
<p>Mandatory training is the way to go (eg: Sweden/Finland), the standard of driving on our road is frightening.  It&#8217;s not the speed that kills, it&#8217;s absolute inability and ignorance.  The majority of car drivers I know, don&#8217;t know if their car is front or rear wheel drive, if it has ABS/BFD, rear discs/drums, etc, etc.  How the hell are they suppost to control a vehicle when they don&#8217;t understand the damn thing works and how it will behave in the event of understeer, oversteer, lock up, wheel spin, etc etc etc.</p>
<p>As for the three E&#8217;s.  In any other country, you would only need one E.  EDUCATION.  Education executed properly would all but eliminate the need for ENFORCEMENT.  However Ireland also needs ENGINEERING, as the interconnected potholes we call a road network get worse by the day.  (I always have to laugh when I see a man with &#8220;Road Engineer&#8221; printed on a floresent jacket runs into the middle of the road with a shovel full of tar to &#8220;fix&#8221; a gaping casm in the road).  As a bike, I will NOT be told that the state of or roads do not contribute to the accidents.  It&#8217;s fucking LETHAL out there on a bike.  Let us not forget the car drivers though, I have to bring my car to the mechanic this weekend as I have front left suspension damage from all the FUCKING POTHOLES!</p>
<p>how about &#8220;DARWIN AWARD NOMINEE&#8221; tatoos on the foreheads of anyone convicted of drink driving? (and drug driving if something would ever be done)</p>
<p>Quite the rant, I could go on all day.  Let&#8217;s rap it up with, don&#8217;t expect ANYTHING meaningfull to be done by this Gov unless they can find a way to cream from it.  They only want you alive to pay your taxes (and mortgages)
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